posted January 10, 2007 05:27 PM            

It is quite a stiff read, but you will find it devoid of any
inflammatory language. You wont find the word 'evolution' being
used. The term had not been invented yet. Darwin was well aware of
the controversey his theory would cause with the church, and agonised
over it for many years before publishing.

http://www.literature.org/authors/darwin-charles/the-origin-of-species/

Here is the final paragraph to give you a flavour:

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It is interesting to contemplate an entangled bank, clothed with many plants of many kinds, with birds singing on the bushes, with various insects flitting about, and with worms crawling through the damp earth, and to reflect that these elaborately constructed forms, so different from each other, and dependent on each other in so complex a manner, have all been produced by laws acting around us. These laws, taken in the largest sense, being Growth with Reproduction; inheritance which is almost implied by reproduction; Variability from the indirect and direct action of the external conditions of life, and from use and disuse; a Ratio of Increase so high as to lead to a Struggle for Life, and as a consequence to Natural Selection, entailing Divergence of Character and the Extinction of less-improved forms. Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows. There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved.

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Charles
www.pegge.net

posted January 10, 2007 05:51 PM            

Hello, did you say, “will be”?

That would be a refreshing breath of honesty, if you meant to phrase it that way.
Meaning, “I don’t know yet but I think it will be proven in the future.”

Otherwise, better write another disclaimer.

“Will be” isn’t a very strong position when you’re calling those opposed to your religion; terrorist, child abusers, bombers, etc…

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posted January 10, 2007 06:02 PM            

LOL
I noticed you were careful not to include any of those mean, nasty names you were calling anyone opposed to your religion.

posted January 10, 2007 06:26 PM            

The, “will be”, is a big-time Freudian slip.

That reduces Evolution to a “belief system”, by definition, “religion.”

Your relentless postings and bigoted name calling, defines you as a Fundamentalist of the Religion of Evolution.

I don’t know if all these apply to you; “pernicious in its resulting intolerance, oppression, bigotry, arrogance, child abuse, homophobia, abortion-clinic bombings, cruelties to women, war, suicide bombers, and educational systems that teach ignorance when it comes to math and science”.

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posted January 10, 2007 06:46 PM            

Erik > Evolution is the creator of the intelligent design of life in all its aspects.

Erik > Evolution and the principles and laws behind it are intelligent enough to have created an intelligent person like you.

Is there a place we meet to worship?
Do we take trips to the Holy Diggings?
I'm trying to learn what I'm supposed to do here.
This is new turf for me.

posted January 10, 2007 07:52 PM            

I had to do a search to figure out what you meant.

Gee, Russ, if I had to look in a book, or on the Internet, to figure out how to reply to a post, I’d at least try to disguise it.

Guess you’ve got to learn somehow.
Good luck.

posted January 10, 2007 09:54 PM            

"So I think many people in this room would acknowledge that during the last few years if you had thought about it at all, you've experienced a shift from evolution as knowledge, to evolution as faith."

Only one of the world's leading evolutionist, what would he know about it?