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Mel Bishop
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posted November 02, 2005 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mel Bishop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am considering going into a part-time business with two other
people. They want to sell a bunch of automotive and computer
stuff on E-Bay.

Question: Does one's e-mail on e-bay increase the chances of
spam and porn? If so, does anyone know of a Plan-B?

Thanks.

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John Thompson
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posted November 02, 2005 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for John Thompson     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine runs one, and while I don't know about the spam
you mentioned, they do get a lot of fake mail asking them to
login to eBay, PayPal, etc. I think he said 1+ a day.

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Joe Byrne
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posted November 02, 2005 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Byrne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

Question: Does one's e-mail on e-bay increase the chances of
spam and porn? If so, does anyone know of a Plan-B


eBay has done a decent job of keeping email addresses private. You can't easily communicate with others without going through eBay's own message system. This also helps them minimize the number of people who will try to email each other directly and cut eBay out of the loop.

That said, if you're this concerned about spam and porn, you ought to get a real email service (not just the 'free' accounts that come with your Internet Service) or consider running your own server. EMail is, by its very nature, non-secured. You'd probably be amazed at how easy it is to snatch emails off the wire and/or from the server(s) they land on in transit. The real pros at email harvesting don't bother with 'posted' addresses like they used to. However, there are some excellent tools that can run on the email server to validate the authenticity of the sender. I use MDaemon on my commercial servers. With 2500+ mail boxes, I average about 0.04% of junk main and almost none of it is porn email (those are really easy to identify). My primary server handles an average of 3,700 emails an hour (during normal business hours). The problem however, is that it takes time and diligence to fine-tune your spam filtering and to keep on top of it. Most ISP 'throw in' email a few accounts because it really doesn't cost them much extra...so long as they don't need to spend a lot of man hours to keep junk mail out. Therefore your 'free' email is far more susceptible to junk than a professionally administered account would be.

To me though, I'd be more worried about going into a part-time business with 2 other people! How much markup are you hoping for to sustain any kind of reasonable part-time profit slit 3 ways? Selling on ebay is not all that difficult to master, so I can't imagine you need that much help, unless of course, these are silent partners putting in some start-up capital.

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Frank Cox
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posted November 02, 2005 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frank Cox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Google's gmail is a good and reliable "alternate" email service. It's free and they now even offer POP/SMTP access so you can plug your gmail address into your usual email client and have everything "under one roof" if you want to.

You can also forward email from your gmail account to any other email address.

Or you can just use gmail in the "regular way", and access it using your web browser.

It is also good for receiving large files that your ISP-provided email account may not accept. There is about 2.5gb or thereabouts of space available for each gmail user.

I believe you still need an "invitation" so you can sign up on gmail. If you want sone, send a request to me, melville.theatre, at gmail.com

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Knuth Konrad
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posted November 03, 2005 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Knuth Konrad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
they do get a lot of fake mail asking them to
login to eBay, PayPal, etc. I think he said 1+ a day.

I'm getting those as well and don't do anything with eBay or PayPal. They simply "spam their list".

Knuth

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Gene Warner
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posted November 03, 2005 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gene Warner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sell on eBay as a hobby and other than the occassional phishing scam looking for my eBay, PayPal and bank info, I get very little if any spam on that e-mail address even though I've been using it on eBay for several years.

In fact the e-mail service I've been using for both my personal and eBay e-mails has turned out to be relatively spam free even though I've turned off the server based spam filter. My personal account gets maybe 1 or 2 dozen a week and after my local spam filter finishes with them I might actually see about a quarter of those.

One thing I do recommend, set up an e-mail address/account specifically for your eBay activities and avoid the free services if you can because eBay does watch for those and will require extra effort from you to proove who you are if you do use a free e-mail service.

I know because I had to go through it myself even though the e-mail service I use isn't free. The reason turned out that the service I use does offer a 30 day free trial which can be abused.

I now know that the e-mail service does provide an alternate TLD that's only usable if you are a paid user to get arround free service problems associated with their main TLD (.com)

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Ian Cairns
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posted November 03, 2005 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ian Cairns     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About ISP's and their email services: My home email account, (on Islandnet.com) which I have had for about 15 years, has filters on incoming mail, as well as your own programmable filters. Over that time, I have had Zero (nada, none) SPAM or Porn email messages. So it is possible, even for a lowly ISP who knows what they are doing.
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you ought to get a real email service (not just the 'free' accounts that come with your Internet Service)

perhaps, "You ought to get an email service from a good provider."

Regards,

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Frank Cox
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posted November 03, 2005 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frank Cox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
> has filters on incoming mail, as well as your own
> programmable filters. Over that time, I have had
> Zero (nada, none) SPAM or Porn email messages.

But how many false positives, i.e. genuine non-spam messages that have been black-holed before you ever see them?

That's my biggest problem with mail filtering, and why I have my ISP's spam filter turned off for my main email account.

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David J Walker
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posted November 03, 2005 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for David J Walker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I use Mailwasher.

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Joe Byrne
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posted November 03, 2005 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Joe Byrne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:

perhaps, "You ought to get an email service from a good provider."


You are right, I used a pretty broad brush there. There are indeed some good ISPs that can and do provide good email service. Unfortunately, most residential (ie. non-business class) providers cut corners and simply don't want to take the extra expense. When dealing with broadband, many people don't have a lot of choices. If you're lucky, you can choose between DLS from your phone company, or cable. If neither take email filtering seriously, then you're stuck.

You also have the option of filtering software on your PC, but I find it better to deal with the junk at the server level. There are lots of good reasons for this preference, but I won't get into them all unless someone really wants to get into it all.

Bottom line on the original question though, is you won't incur a higher amount of span simply by starting to sell on eBay.

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