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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 11:53 AM
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If I were running for POTUS...

...what would be my platform? I've come up with the top 10, listed in no particular order.
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1. Campaign that the word "God" is a three-letter word.
2. Scrap the entire income tax code and replace it with a flat tax system. Similar for business tax.
3. Make abortion a felony offence.
4. Give parents "permission" to disipline their children.
5. Scrap all gun control laws.
6. Build up and modernize the military. Something similar to POTUS Regans' 600 ship navy.
7. Decisions made by the supreme court can be over turned by a 2/3 majority of both the house and senate.
8. Fire every "czar" appointed by obama. If not possible, defund.
9. Protect the military personnel in combat zones. The press and lawyers will not run the war.
10. Strip the EPA of its' regulatory power. If they want to makes changes, they will advise congress and have them make the changes.
Like I said, there are other things but these would be my top ten.
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 12:10 PM
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Wow never thought I was THAT opposite of you Mel. Well you learn something everyday,
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 12:31 PM
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...THAT opposite of you Mel...
In what respect?

BTW: I would be interested in reading others' top ten (or two or five) if YOU were running.
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When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
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The 2nd amendment: The original home land security bill.
If babies could speak, they'd be the most intelligent people on earth. (Heard on the Rush show).
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 02:12 PM
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1) Disestablish all political parties and relegate them to the status of lobby groups.
2) Bar any member of a political party, current or in the previous 5 years, from standing for public office.
3) There might not be a need for any more because 1+2 will likely produce a more functional government that will make sensible decisions instead of only arguing along increasingly ridiculous party lines and it can then come up with the rest of the good ideas on its own.


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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 05:05 PM
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1) Disestablish all political parties and relegate them to the status of lobby groups.
Do you mean we need to do what hitler did?
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If babies could speak, they'd be the most intelligent people on earth. (Heard on the Rush show).
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 05:55 PM
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To keep it friendly let's just say to see eye to eye we would need an elevator.

And that's FASTEST Godwin's Law escalation I have ever seen.
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 06:32 PM
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...that's FASTEST Godwin's Law escalation I have ever seen.
If the shoe fits....

But you are right. I have my opinions, and Paul has his. I shud'da thunk before I replied. Apologies.
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The 2nd amendment: The original home land security bill.
If babies could speak, they'd be the most intelligent people on earth. (Heard on the Rush show).
Statistics are great until you become one of them.
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 08:32 PM
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I agree on some, disagree on most. But this one goes against one of the basic principals our country was founded on:
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7. Decisions made by the supreme court can be over turned by a 2/3 majority of both the house and senate.
In the worst case scenario, this would allow 2/3 of the people throw 1/3 of the people in jail.

We have to keep the worst case scenario in mind.

The founders of the USA were very wary of giving the government too much power. They came up with the three branches of our government in order to prevent the abuse of power. By limiting the power of the Supreme Court, we are in danger of giving too much power to the Executive and Legislative branches.
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 08:47 PM
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The founders of the USA were very wary of giving the government too much power.
Now I'm a little hazy on the particulars on this but I think the Chief Justice at the time told Thomas Jefferson that the supreme court was the ultimate decision making authority in the land. There wasn't any debate, discussion or negotiation. The CJ just usurped the authority and dictated to T.J. what was going to be.

And for some reason, it stuck.

What else don't you agree with? I'd be happy to explain my stance further if you'd like.

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Added: Maybe I should modify #7 to read: "Bad decisions made by ...". Example: Eminent Domain and Row Vs. Wade.
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When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
If it doesn't fit, you're not using a big enough hammer.
The 2nd amendment: The original home land security bill.
If babies could speak, they'd be the most intelligent people on earth. (Heard on the Rush show).
Statistics are great until you become one of them.
What would happen if a vampire infected a werewolf or visa-a-vis.

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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 09:21 PM
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Let's be honest when we type... it's not a bad decision... it's a decision you do not agree with considering your personal bias' (meant in the definition sense, not derogatory).
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 09:39 PM
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George

You are right

Mel - define 'bad'!!! Basically you can't! So you need a judge to decide - oops we have gone in a circle.....

Actually NZ is far more left than the US and I sit in the middle - but I like some of the things you say Mel.

I certainly agree with 1,2,4,and 9 (and I do not know what 10 means!)

Perhaps we should take a step back and define what we think is the role of Govt - and then develop these ideas from there. So here is my list:

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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 10:02 PM
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1. Make it illegal to bribe congress. No more lobbying. Congress does the bidding of big money and does not care for the will of the people.
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Old Mar 1st, 2012, 10:53 PM
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Mel - define 'bad'!!!
Decisions that are blatantly unconstitutional.

Re #10: The EPA (environmental protection agency) is an unelected, unaccountable agency that has the power to impose its opinion on the population of America. If it rains in your area, the EPA can declare it a 'wet land' which means you can't do anything with your land. You can't plow for crops, build a house/barn, nothing.

A farmer a while ago lost his shorts because somebody found a Kangaroo Rat on his land (an 'endangered species'). The EPA bounded in and forbade him from making a living with his land.

Like I said, the EPA needs to be stripped of its regulatory power and make it an advisory board to congress.
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When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
If it doesn't fit, you're not using a big enough hammer.
The 2nd amendment: The original home land security bill.
If babies could speak, they'd be the most intelligent people on earth. (Heard on the Rush show).
Statistics are great until you become one of them.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2012, 01:55 AM
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To keep it friendly let's just say to see eye to eye we would need an elevator.

And that's FASTEST Godwin's Law escalation I have ever seen.
If you haven't the time to see eye to eye
At least smile and wave as you're passing on by.
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Old Mar 2nd, 2012, 02:21 AM
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...what would be my platform? I've come up with the top 10, listed in no particular order.

Like I said, there are other things but these would be my top ten.
So, you want to use the U.S. Constitution for your founding platform instead
of shredding it for a social safety network hamster bedding?
Hmmm... interesting.

Number ten won't work, though.
It is necessary for lawmakers to offload their responsibility in order to bypass
constitutional restrictions requiring that they be accountable for laws
being created that intentionally circumvent the first ten amendments.
Creating regulatory bodies that bypass the lawmaking process allows them to
have their breach of the Constitution and still get re-elected.

It has taken over 200 years to get this far past the impediments to Good Government
placed by the founding fathers, and you would undo all the good work of all the
brilliant legal minds chipping away at it for all those years?
Note that Hannibal relied on elephants to do the heavy lifting.
I have heard that he employed vinegar to remove some obstacles.
Sometimes, deconstruction is more effective than brute force.

You might do better by promising to make a law requiring churches to serve
McDonalds softserve with their sermons on Sundays.
Of course, you will need to specify in the law that said churches will need to
pay for the ice cream and not require a donation from their members.
It should be understood, but I'd write that in there.

I'm just kidding, of course. The lobbyists who wrote the legislation would have
already put that in there. I wouldn't even have read it.
Heck, I wouldn't even know what was in it until after it was passed!

Plausible deniability is the keystone of safe egress with the funds!
A clean getaway requires a clear focus on progress!
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